Imagine five Vassar departments and two programs co-sponsoring a speech by a Ku Klux Klan supporter. Or Vassar giving its imprimatur to a rant against members of the LGBTQ community by a member of the Westboro Baptist Church. Such things would not happen here, of course (and I am grateful for it). But what about hate speech against Jews in the guise of anti-Zionism? Never, right?
Yet, when Ali Abunimah and Max Blumenthal spoke at Vassar last April, that is what happened.
Obviously, it was not billed as an anti-Semitic event. Rather, these two leaders of the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) movement were promoting their Israel-bashing books in a talk arranged by Students for Justice in Palestine (SJP) and co-sponsored by Religion, Political Science, Sociology, English, Geography, Jewish Studies and International Studies (not to mention a few local BDS community groups). Among other “facts,” Abunimah and Blumenthal assured their audience that Jewish Israelis take their children to Auschwitz in order to condition them to kill Palestinians, and that Israelis are the new Nazis (“Judeo-Nazis”). Recently, German’s main opposition party (a leftist group) disinvited Blumenthal after learning of his anti-Semitic writings (The Algemeiner, “German Opposition Party Cancels Event Featuring American Anti-Semite Max Blumenthal,” 11.6.14). Yet somehow, Vassar overlooked or ignored what the German progressive party was able to easily discern.
Why bring this up now? Apart from my dismay that no one involved in this despicable event ever expressed regret, I was struck by a recent article in The Miscellany News, which said that the BDS movement has “proven central to conceptions of Vassar’s relationship to the [Israel/Palestinian] conflict” (“Baskin ‘Supports’ Possible Two-State Solution in Talk,” Rhys Johnson, 11.5.14). The article quoted a letter by 39 Vassar professors last semester, in which they linked the struggle against South African apartheid to the BDS movement against Israel.
Given the relentlessly one-sided way in which certain Vassar faculty have taught Middle East courses, it is not surprising that students would see that region through the BDS lens. Those who value critical thought and common sense, however, should make the effort to learn the true nature of this movement. BDS is not about human rights for Palestinians but about isolating, demonizing and delegitimizing Israel, implemented through such tactics as “anti-normalization”—i.e, the refusal to engage in any civil interaction or dialogue with those who do not share BDS’ anti-Zionist beliefs. The goal is eliminating the sole Jewish state in the world. While BDS supporters often claim to want a fair and peaceful solution to the Israel/Palestinian conflict, they oppose the creation of an independent Palestinian state alongside Israel. As BDS leader Omar Barghouti has declared, “I do not buy into the two state solution. It is not just pragmatically impossible, it was never a moral solution” (The Jerusalem Post, “BDS opposes the two state solution of the Arab-Israel conflict,” 12.5.13). Apparently, in a world with dozens of Muslim nations and well over one hundred that identify as Christian, one tiny Jewish state is simply too many.
To promote its agenda of destruction, BDS practices what the Nazis perfected, and Communist Russia taught Yasser Arafat—the “Big Lie.” Say it loudly and often enough, and no matter how demonstrably wrong it is, people begin to accept it. Thus BDS supporters smear Israel as “apartheid” and “racist,” and deny the Jewish people’s historical connection to the land. No matter that Arab Israelis and all other citizens enjoy full legal rights in Israel, that Israel is the only nation that invited African immigrants in order to better their lives, and that archaeological evidence shows that Jews have lived continuously in Israel for thousands of years. So noisy and assertive are those promoting the big lies, that even members of the LGBTQ community, women and religious minorities, who have rights in Israel that they dare not dream of in any of its neighboring countries, will join the chorus (at least so long as they don’t actually have to live in those other places).
In addition to lies, BDS is rife with hypocrisy. Barghouti demands the boycott of Israeli academic institutions, but obtained a degree at Tel Aviv University. The American Studies Association (ASA) claims that Israel restricts the academic freedom of Palestinians, yet it refused to allow a free and open debate among its members prior to its vote on an academic boycott resolution. That resolution passed last December with only 20% of the ASA members voting. Notably, ASA already has had to backtrack on it; to avoid litigation over its discriminatory policies, it has done an about-face and proclaimed that Israeli academics are now welcome to attend the 2014 ASA conference (The Washington Post, “ASA policy reversal delegitimizes BDS, but does not reverse past discrimination,” 10.21.14). As over 250 universities and colleges recognized when rejecting the ASA’s resolution, the promotion of an Israeli academic boycott is flawed—ideologically, morally and practically.
This summer, the vitriol of BDS and other anti-Israel movements achieved a frightening and openly anti-Semitic intensity. Although Israel was defending itself from a terrorist regime whose charter explicitly calls for its destruction (as well as the killing of all Jews, wherever found), Israel was repeatedly accused of genocide. The disparity in casualties was cited as evidence that Israel was using disproportionate force; apparently, morality required that Israel suffer an equal number of deaths at the hands of Hamas’ indiscriminately-launched rockets and terror tunnels. Israel’s extraordinary efforts to warn Gazans to leave areas before Israeli air strikes were ignored or derided. (Yet so exceptional were these efforts that the Pentagon just sent a team to Israel to study them). Inflamed by extreme rhetoric on social media, protesters took to the streets to denounce not only Israel, but Jews. Jewish stores were torched, persons wearing Jewish garb were assaulted. As the New York Times put it, “[f]rom the immigrant enclaves of the Parisian suburbs to the drizzly bureaucratic city of Brussels to the industrial heartland of Germany, Europe’s old demon returned this summer. ‘Death to the Jews!’ shouted protesters at pro-Palestinian rallies in Belgium and France. ‘Gas the Jews!’ yelled marchers at a similar protest in Germany” (The New York Times, “Europe’s Anti-Semitism Comes Out of the Shadows,” 9.23.14).
Which brings me back to the Abunimah/Blumenthal event at Vassar. This sort of showmanship (hate speech and the big lie) is not aberrant for the BDS movement; to the contrary, BDS thrives on it. If BDS is indeed central to Vassar’s connection to the Israel/Palestinian conflict, as the Miscellany article noted, then responsible faculty and students should make it a priority to expose the true nature of this anti-Semitic movement. It is not about human rights for Palestinians but about destroying the world’s only Jewish homeland.
—Laurie Josephs ’78 was a political science major.
“that Israel is the only nation that invited African immigrants in order to better their lives”
“African immigrants in Israel stage mass hunger strike over ‘inhuman detentions'”
Welcome back Laurie Josephs. A little lie in defense of Israel never hurt anyone.
“Recently, German’s main opposition party (a leftist group) disinvited Blumenthal after learning of his anti-Semitic writings”
Gregor Gysi, the Left politician who disinvited them, has since denied that he had described the two publicists as “anti-Semites.”. So why does Laurie Josephs make up facts. If i were an attorney and i made up stuff like this in court, I would be disbarred. But Ms Josephs blithely makes up “facts”.
If I were a lawyer and defended a person in Court by telling the judge; “The defendant is innocent, I’ll not bother you with actual evidence. Just take my opinions as facts”. The judge and jury would laugh at the least.
Ms Josephs states such laughable “facts”. ” Abunimah and Blumenthal assured their audience that Jewish Israelis take their children to Auschwitz in order to condition them to kill Palestinians”. That’s right folks, our attorney Ms Josephs has invented a few “facts”. If i were you i’d hold on to my coffee cup tightly and drink small sips, lest i burst out laughing at these “facts” and ruin my keyboard. I need my a functional computer to point read Ms Josephs version of “Believe It Or You Are An “Anti-Semite””.
There were more fully racist demonstrations in Israel than in Europe. But lets not facts get in the way of the Defense of Israel by Ms Josephs.
‘No children left in Gaza!’ Right-wing Israeli mob mocks deaths in anti-Gaza chant
“The American Jewish Committee’s Global Forum earlier this year, which advertised sixty-four speakers, did not include a single Palestinian.”
What Ms Josephs wants is Vassar to replicate, as Beinart describes, major American Jewish organization’s treatment of Palestinians and their rights, in the article “American Jewish Cocoon”. And she is just upset that Vassar has allowed alternative view points to come forward. I guess unlike our American politicians Vassar faculty cannot be bought off.
Why do i post the above statement. Ms Josephs was a member of the AJC and linked here is an invitation to their Gala. Any Palestinians invited Ms Josephs ?
I was struck by the hontesy of your posting
” As BDS leader Omar Barghouti has declared, “I do not buy into the two state solution. It is not just pragmatically impossible, it was never a moral solution” (The Jerusalem Post, “BDS opposes the two state solution of the Arab-Israel conflict,” 12.5.13).”
The New York Times published a correction withdrawing its direct attribution to Mr Barghouti. Ask yourself , Why is Ms Josephs using a false quote from the Jerusalem Post that refers to the Times without posting the correction ?
By allowing Vassar to read her unhinged diatribe Ms Josephs has performed us a favor. She illuminates the dishonesty that Peter Beinart describes in his opinion pieces. Smear anyone who speaks up for Palestinians, while pretending that there is no such thing as an Israeli settlement enterprise.
When me, a lowly pee on, can find multiple falsehoods in a few paragraphs of this diatribe, what does that tell you about Ms Josephs, a Harvard trained lawyer ? What does that tell you about the right wing Israeli “victim” movement in this country ?
If this is the dishonesty and treatment facing people who DISCUSS UNEQUALITY for Palestinians thousands of miles from Israel, then one must wonder the treatment facing Palestinians DEMANDING EQUALITY in Israel. What are organizations like the American Jewish Committee hiding from us ?
Nothing in Ms. Joseph’s excellent article is inaccurate. That doesn’t stop the puerile “RAJ” from scribbling false and hysterical rantings, hiding behind his anonymous handle. Nor does “RAJ” ever acknowledge the horror and reality of rising, hate-filled Jew Hatred. Hating and lying about Jews is okay with him/her?
Dear “Israel Exists”
I did not know that “Israel Exists” was a real name. However. unlike Ms Josephs “facts” of Auschwitz and Judeo-Nazi, I provided actual links to backup each of my assertions. And all you can come up is the standard “anti-semitic” accusations ?
The truth hurts.
When me, a lowly pee on, can find multiple falsehoods in a few paragraphs of this diatribe, what does that tell you. What does that tell you about the right wing Israeli “victim” movement in this country ?
If this is the treatment facing people who DISCUSS UNEQUALITY for Palestinians thousands of miles from Israel, then one must wonder the treatment facing Palestinians DEMANDING EQUALITY in Israel. What are organizations like the American Jewish Committee hiding from us ?
Why don’t they even condemn a single Jewish settlement of Palestinians land ? Something that every American President has condemned.
Whoa, Raj! Five comments!
1. Omar Barghouti is not a fan of the two-state solution. He favors a one-state solution. http://www.arabnews.com/one-state-debate-gathers-pace-peace-hopes-fade
2. I’m not sure why you think the American Jewish Committee, an advocacy organization, has the same responsibility to provide varied perspectives on a controversial issue as Vassar College, a college, does. Unless you think that the College’s role is issue advocacy rather than academics.
3. There have been countless demonstrations in the West Bank calling for violence against Israelis, not to mention countless terrorist attacks. Regardless, demonstrations by a few right-wing extremists in Israel does not validate a boycott of the entire country anymore than right-wing demonstrations for Marie Le Pen’s party in France justifies a boycott of France..
4. If Gregor Gysi didn’t label Sheen and Blumenthal antisemites, why did Sheen chase Gysi into a bathroom with a camera asking him why he labeled Sheen an antisemite?
5. The treatment African immigrants face elsewhere in the Middle East is far worse than in Israel. That’s why they keep going there. They have to cross more than one international border to get to Israel. There’s a reason.
1. Provide me a direct quote from Omar Barghouti.
2. The American Jewish Committee has no responsibility to provide a varied perspective. Just as any Professor has no responsibility to provide a varied perspective of his/her personal view on their own time. As long as his/her perspective is not imposed on a student in a classroom. Ms Josephs claims faculty have provided a one-sided perspective in the class room, but offers not an iota of proof. Just like in the majority of her claims.
However, when the American Jewish Committee claims its an organization for peace and does not, not once, criticize, question or call for the end to illegal Israeli settlement, then its claims and those of its members are just plain duplicitous. And i’m pointing that out
They’re for peace but will endorse every illegal interpretation of settlements by Israel. In the process they demand every Palestinian organization to endorse a two-state solution.
The American Jewish Committee’s interpretation of the Geneva Convention runs counter to every nations interpretation of that Convention. Except Israel. But Ms Josephs decries the one-sidedness !!!!
3. Who denied demonstrations in the West Bank ? Ms Josephs was pointing out to racist demonstrations in Europe. And i was responding with the fact that today in Israel there are far more wholly racist demonstrations than there are in Europe. And your “few right wing” comment is deceptive. Those “few right wing” extremists sit in the Israeli cabinet. And some of them openly call for apartheid while sitting in the cabinet.
4. I pointed to a link in a German newspaper where Gregor Gysi denied that Blumenthal was an anti-semite. Again pointing out Ms Josephs problems with facts.
Sheen confronted Gysi over the attempted cancellation of his presentation and Gysi’s collaboration with the “anti-semitism” crowd. Did Sheen think Gysi was using “anti-semitism” ? Probably so. But when Gysi issues a statement denying it, that contradicts Ms Josephs claims, as usual.
5. Israel’s treatment of African immigrants is not “Israel is the only nation that invited African immigrants in order to better their lives”. Ms Josephs is a Harvard lawyer and yet I have to point out the bald face lie. Those people are treated like crap and not the the “better their lives” scenario that Ms. Josephs was making up. Want to deny that ?
Its been a great pleasure pointing out Ms. Josephs duplicitous and in many cases totally false accusations. In her prior submit she claimed the Prof injected race into the discussion (as in South Africa) while the Prof clearly identified nationality as the basis of discrimination in Israel. But facts are but an inconvenience for Ms Josephs when it comes to defending Israel and its treatment of Palestinians. Who can blame her. With a Harvard law degree she must be accustomed to getting her way. Except for those people of color who demand freedom for Palestinians.
Why do you feel the need to write so many comments? Can’t you just make your point with one long ranting post? Ok, thanks!
“1. Provide me a direct quote from Omar Barghouti.”
I did. The Arab News article quoted him directly. A longer version:
“A secular, democratic unitary state in historic Palestine (in its British Mandate borders) is the most just and morally coherent solution to this century-old colonial conflict” – See more at: http://mondoweiss.net/2013/10/democratic-palestine-promising#sthash.VWa9a226.dpuf
(By the way, the British Mandate borders included what is today Jordan, which has a majority Palestinian population and will become a Palestinian state the day the king falls, but let’s leave that aside for now)
“The American Jewish Committee has no responsibility to provide a varied perspective. Just as any Professor has no responsibility to provide a varied perspective of his/her personal view on their own time. ”
Again, I note the specious comparison you make between an advocacy organization and an academic institution. If you know anything about power relationships, you know that students are afraid to disagree with the political opinions of their professors in class.
“However, when the American Jewish Committee claims its an organization for peace and does not, not once, criticize, question or call for the end to illegal Israeli settlement, then its claims and those of its members are just plain duplicitous”
When SJP says it’s for peace and justice, and does not once criticize, question, or call for an end to suicide bombing, then its claims and those of its members are just plain duplicitous.
“today in Israel there are far more wholly racist demonstrations than there are in Europe. ”
I saw no support for that claim, and regardless, as I said before, there’s a conflict, evidenced by the much more numerous demonstrations in the West Bank exhibiting violence or calling for violence, none of which SJP condemns.
“Those “few right wing” extremists sit in the Israeli cabinet.”
And Hamas is the popularly elected government of the Palestinian people.
“Israel’s treatment of African immigrants is not “Israel is the only nation that invited African immigrants in order to better their lives”. ”
Yes. It would be more accurate to say that Africans emigrate to Israel in order to better their lives, and in many cases, are able to do so. It would also be accurate to say that Africans do NOT emigrate to Arab countries to better their lives, because many Arabs do not like Black people, and because Arab governments are far more hostile to them than the Israeli government is.
“Its been a great pleasure pointing out Ms. Josephs duplicitous and in many cases totally false accusations.”
It’s been a great pleasure pointing out that as usual, you don’t know what you’re talking about.
“In her prior submit she claimed the Prof injected race into the discussion (as in South Africa) while the Prof clearly identified nationality as the basis of discrimination in Israel.”
There is no question that SJP regularly, and disingenuously, injects race into their depiction of the conflict. It is a cynical, and dishonest, strategy to form alliances with ethnic and racial minority groups on campus.
1) Omar Barghouti’s position and Naftali Bennett. Both support one state. Except one supports a one state with no rights for some people. How very convenient.
2.” By the way, the British Mandate borders included what is today Jordan, which has a majority Palestinian population and will become a Palestinian state the day the king falls, but let’s leave that aside for now” – Except this is a total fabrication by Palestinian deniers. But what’s new.
3. Again, you nor Ms Josephs have provided not an iota of proof that Vassar faculty have ever targeted any person related to this conflict. But then why bother with facts.
Furthermore , when a member of an advocacy organization asks starts lecturing Vassar faculty about “one-sided” discourse, it helps to point the hypocrisy when that organization and its members practice exactly the opposite. But then whats new about a little double speak by right wing pro-Israeli supporters. Preach one thing while practicing another.
4.The SJP has never called for violence and you cannot point to a single chapter that condones any violence. Unlike the AJC which makes up rational for the Israeli settlement program. But nice of you to invent a few more facts.
“We believe that in order to resist structural oppression, we must embody the principles and ideals we envision for a just society, and that we must stand against homophobia, sexism, racism, anti-Semitism, Islamophobia, classism, colonialism and bigotry and discrimination in any form.”
5. Demonstrations. I compared demonstrations in Israel proper and Europe. Nice of you ignore that. Cause after all just like Ms Josephs need to deflect from the openly racist demonstrations in Israel today. So convenient just to point at “their racism” and not at “your racism”.
6. “Israel is the only nation that invited African immigrants in order to better their lives”. As much as you dance around it, Ms Josephs made a false assertion. You can try and reword it with “Africans emigrate to Israel in order to better their lives”, but i think we all know the difference. One statement is a lie. But then are we surprised.
7. Regarding race. I pointed to a specific instance were Ms Josephs falsely accused someone of injecting race. Again, you’re trying to deflect cause after all Ms Josephs was making stuff up and accepting that fact would be too much for you.
A fine read on how right wing racism has permeated Israel. But woe be upon us if Ms Josephs or any her “nuanced” apologists would admit such.
Raj believes that if he writes the same false phrases over and over again, eventually some people will believe him. He imagines himself a purveyor of the truth, just as Max Blumenthal does, calling Israelis racist, oppressors, and usurpers of the land while characterizing “palestinians” as the oppressed indigenous victims of a colonial power.
Raj and those of his ilk continue to voice the conclusions of the now discredited 1975 UN General Assembly statement that “Zionism = racism.” Despite the 1992 UN disavowal of this lie, the United Nations continues to focus on Israel while being totally silent about the true victims in the Arab, Islamic and developing world. Israel is presented in simplistic terms as responsible for “palestinian” suffering, without recognizing that the Arab population in greater Israel, including Judea and Samaria, has more freedom, prosperity and security than Arabs of any country in the area. There has been a dramatic improvement in the economic situation of the Arab population of Judea and Samaria since the1967 war.
Israel has people of all religions and races as its citizens and yet is characterized as racist. Racism against non-Muslims is openly practiced in Arab countries. Jordan explicitly denies citizenship to all Jews, Lebanon and Saudi Arabia deny citizenship to Palestinians and Abbas has said no Jews will be allowed to reside or have citizenship in any future “Palestinian” state. In the interests of peaceful co-existence, Israel has allowed Muslims free access to the Al Aksa Mosque and the Dome of the Rock, both located on the holiest site of the Jewish People, the Temple Mount in Jerusalem. It also permits Jordanians to control this site and deny the right of Jews to pray there. The recent slaughter of Jewish civilians in Jerusalem by Arab Muslims was prompted by Arab outrage at the mere wish of Jews to pray at their own holiest site.
Some have questioned why so many people of color demand freedom for “Palestinians.” They have been taught that colonialism is evil. In many instances this has certainly been true. They then have read or been told that Israel is a colonial power and conclude, therefore, that people of color should reject Israel. Any equation of Israel with colonialism ignores the realities of Jewish roots and historical sovereignty in what is today Israel, Judea and Samaria and fails to recognize that the modern reconstitution of Jewish nationalism was achieved through a legitimate process consistent with international law and the right to self-determination. Unlike any other “settler-colonial” state (Raj-speak) in history, Israel stands alone in that there is no foreign power that can be identified as the “colonial entity.” In addition, no colonial power in history has ever allowed the people it is colonizing the opportunity to live in peace as a separate and sovereign nation. The Arabs have over and over again rejected a two-state solution. This rejection of Israel is rooted in an ideological and cognitive denial of any Jewish connection to Palestine and the ancient Land of Israel.
Most people of color in the United States are Christians. The treatment of Christians in Arab and Muslim countries is terrible. There is abuse of Christians in “Arab Palestine,” while in Israel, Christians and all other religions have total religious freedom. People of color believe they are supporting human rights when they support the Arabs, but the reality is that gays are hung in Arab nations, women are abused and treated as property and people of color are enslaved. It is only in Israel that they have equal rights and protection. Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East.
According to international law, there are no “occupied territories” and therefore there is no “illegal Israeli settlement.” Although the Arabs would prefer there to be no Israel at all, Judea and Samaria, East Jerusalem, and Gaza were all supposed to be part of a Jewish state, according to the San Remo Resolution of 1920 and the Mandate for Palestine of 1922. The legality of this was affirmed by the League of Nations and subsequently by the United Nations (Article 80 of the UN Charter states that all mandates of the League of Nations are still valid.) No Palestinian Arab state has ever existed throughout human history, although the country of Jordan, which was carved out of what was to have been a Jewish State, is largely made up of so called “palestinians.” It is indeed ironic that the “palestinians,” who make up a majority of the population in Jordan, are not granted basic human rights and are discriminated against by the minority Jordanian government. Israel has stronger grounds to argue, based on international law, that Judea and Samaria (West Bank) are within its national borders than any other state within the region.
Finally, in respect to Blumenthal and his outrageous demonization and defamation of Israel and Jews, it is well documented that he makes the odious comparison of Israel to Nazi Germany, states the fallacies that Jews are brought to Auschwitz to acquire the motivation for killing Arabs and Jewish children are taught how to use guns at a young age in Jewish schools for the purpose of eradicating “palestinians.” Like Raj, Blumenthal knows that if you tell a lie often enough, at least a few will believe it is the truth.
“Raj believes that if he writes the same false phrases over and over again, eventually some people will believe him. He imagines himself a purveyor of the truth, ”
There’s a problem Ms. Kahn to your rant. I’ve attached a link to back up each of my assertions that Ms Josephs openly fibbed, or have asked for proof on any of her yet unproven assertions.
The rest of your rant is just that. A rant full of half-truths or fully baked falsehoods. For example;
“Israel has stronger grounds to argue, based on international law, that Judea and Samaria (West Bank) are within its national borders than any other state within the region”
There is no bigger falsehood than this. The entire world, except for Israel and right wing Jewish organizations in this country, has stated that Israel is in violation of the Geneva Convention. But you choose to repeat this falsehood without any link any validation.
Regarding your assertion regarding Article 80, the International Court of Justice dismissed that nonsensical claim as such.
“The Israeli legal argument was dismissed by the International Court of Justice. The Court cited the Geneva Convention’s travaux préparatoires, which recommended that the conventions be applicable to any armed conflict “whether [it] is or is not recognized as a state of war by the parties” and “in cases of occupation of territories in the absence of any state of war” as confirmation that the drafters of the article had no intention of restricting the scope of its application.””
Any Vassarite can read your rant and see that you’ve provided no validation for almost all of your assertions. Just like Ms Josephs you blithely invoke fiction as fact, because such fiction suits your “moral” and “victim” agenda. Cause after all its so much easy to pretend “victimhood” , which is what Ms Josephs and now you have perfected to a science.
Every single thing you’ve just said in this piece is incorrect.
-non anonymously, Robert Ronan.
…Like what? You should not be able to just make a statement like that without following it up with any actual thoughts or critiques.
I am sad to say i have NEVER been more ashamed of my beloved college. Horrifying that a liberal open minded institution which Vassar once was would have faculty and administration support this biased anti-semitic view of Israels struggle to survive a midst neighboring nations and peoples that have self-proclaimed they only wish destroy us and drive every single Jew into the sea.
I love the fact that not only do you hide behind a pseudonym, while those of us supporting Israel’s right to exist are willing to reveal our identities, but that you repeatedly describe yourself as a lowly “pee on.” That seems like a more appropriate moniker for a coward like you.
Class of 1973
I’ve posted links to each of my assertions. Rather than doing a drive by “Israel’s right to exist” smear, why don’t you have the moral fortitude to challenge any of them. Or like the original author of this posts, do you exist to smear anyone who questions Israeli apartheid.
Raj The “pee on”